ElevenLabs, TwelveLabs, ThirteenLabs
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討論洞見
討論主要圍繞「數字＋Labs」作為 AI、新創與軟體公司的命名潮流，並延伸至網域搶注、品牌辨識度、既有公司先例，以及其他週期性命名風格。部分留言也討論了 VectorHeart 美學、AI 生成網站品質，以及若干與主題相關的幽默或個人案例。
共識：「數字＋Labs」已成為相當普遍且容易被模仿的命名模式；數字可能來自品牌趨勢、地址、區域／國家電話區碼、個人背景或純粹為了取得可用名稱。不過，這項判斷主要依賴留言者列舉的案例，未提供完整市場統計。
實務建議
- 若要採用「數字＋Labs」，應先檢查商標、公司名稱、主要網域、社群帳號與既有產品，因為可用名稱可能很少。
- 數字最好具備可解釋的來源或品牌故事，否則容易被視為跟風、泛化或缺乏差異化。
- 評估 AI 或軟體網站時，應檢查產品功能、更新紀錄、定價合理性與宣稱的即時數據，不要只依賴 landing page 的視覺效果。
- 若品牌名稱需透過語音傳播，應測試快速發音、負面聯想與不同語言中的歧義。
- 命名潮流會週期性變化；即使某種格式目前流行，也不代表它能長期建立獨特品牌。
待釐清問題
- 「數字＋Labs」在新創與 AI 公司中的實際普及程度，以及相較其他命名格式的成功率，尚未由系統性資料證明。
- 不同數字是否具有穩定的品牌聯想或融資優勢，討論中沒有充分證據。
- 被質疑為 AI 生成、仿製或低價值的網站與產品，其技術來源、品質及商業合法性仍未獲得驗證。
- VectorHeart 是否已形成廣泛接受的正式美學分類，或只是部分社群使用的非正式稱呼，仍不確定。
代表性留言
I work on https://elevenmusic.io (full disclosure), so I just had to check: onemusic.com.au twomusic.it 3music.tv fourmusic.com 5music.com.tw bbc.co.uk/6music seven-music.com (8 appears to be vacant?) ninemusic.net tenmusic.in
sigvef · HN #49407451
Maybe 8 music sounds too close to “hate music” when pronounced fast? Not exactly a great advertisement if someone tunes in to your radio station and hears you hate music.
pluies · HN #49416364
Close but not exact, and not defunct https://blog.8tracks.com/
_neil · HN #49411731
https://41labs.ai/I think this is the most obviously AI designed website I have ever seen.From the nonsensical logo, the bland generic design language, overlapping support chats to mix and match of different landing page patterns. Misaligned avatar circles.
Illniyar · HN #49402465
I think the logo is pretty nifty actually. It's both "41" and "AI"
grensley · HN #49403056
Huh. The reply time keeps updating between 0.8s and 1.2s, but is always "98% faster than manual", which is basically saying "We reply twice as fast", but in a really weird way. I'd fully expect a "2x faster" framing instead. And the reply time updates, but the recent activity does not... Even though everything is written to look like its updating live.Weird.
rpdillon · HN #49407950
Author here. Very surprised to see this here - my poor web server wasn't built for this! It's back up for now.
quantumish · HN #49402289
Could Wayback Machine your articles just in case! Maybe downsides idk
Barbing · HN #49407115
Such a funny concept. So well done. Thanks for making it.
stevage · HN #49404804
My key take away from this is that one of my favorite graphic art styles from the 90/00s is now referred to by some as "VectorHeart" and afaik it never had a defacto nameso...Long live *VectorHeart Style™*
ocodo · HN #49414403
https://www.twelvelabs.io/blog/introducing-the-multimodal-ai...> Twelve Labs and ElevenLabs are co-hosting the 23Labs Hackathon
progbits · HN #49401875
I was confused why I was already on the list... this is from 2023.
BoorishBears · HN #49403843
Long before AI, I used the domain sixlabs.org for many years from about 2002-ish through 2012 when I managed to lose the domain and someone has had it registered and parked ever since with no active services and no obvious for sale sign. Still registered now.At the time it was a reference to a combination of IPv6 (which I was fond of) and that my birthday is on the 6th. Was like a little mini self-hosting project for web+email that had me and other friends on a real physical box (was also early days for VMs :)In any case, this write-up is amusing.
lathiat · HN #49414738
I run a reverse engineering collective that is called 52 Labs: https://52-1ab.github.io/.> 52 1ab (Pronounced 52 Lab) is a Software Research group dedicated to interoperabilty research in India. It is named after the Section 52(1) (ab) of The Copyright Act which states:>> The following act shall not constitute an infringement of copyright:>> the doing of any act necessary to obtain information essential for operating inter-operability of an independently created computer programme with other programmes by a lawful possessor of a computer programme provided that such information is not otherwise readily available.
captn3m0 · HN #49406282
Tried to register sixsevenlabs, too late unfortunately...
WhatsName · HN #49401019
All of them copied 15.aiElevenLabs was a commercial version of 15.ai. It's crazy, because 15.ai could have had the venture-scale outcomes if he'd fundraised and turned it into a SaaS product. He was in the right place, right time, with tremendous attention, but missed the opportunity.The other "labs" followed the trend. The {number}labs / {number}.ai domains all quickly got squatted.I was in the same space and watched it happening. I launched FakeYou about the same time as 15.ai, but 15 had the backing of 4chan and a better model. I still made it to 7M MAU and a million in revenue despite that.Just last year, Fish Audio picked up where 15.ai / FakeYou / UberDuck / Weights.gg left off and made it to $20M ARR, which is a lesson about abandoning under-served markets when you still have tremendous gravity.
possibilistic · HN #49401429
SixSevenLabs btw seems really cringe, see https://www.67lab.ai/catalog/clawnexus
darkwater · HN #49401772
As a grown-up, adult man with absolutely no inappropriate thoughts, I was expecting https://69labs.vip/ to be.. something else.
MrGilbert · HN #49410238
lol. I was quite disappointed too
tornikeo · HN #49410329
I own http://34labs.com since forever :D (a homage to the Spanish phone prefix)
toniprada · HN #49408695
What I’m seeing is there are 29 available startup names just waiting…
kennywinker · HN #49401106
After that we’ll have to expand to 3 digits, which will open the possibility of naming your company after hip area codes.
bee_rider · HN #49401253
Yeah! 50 labs is still available. I know what I’m getting myself for my 50th birthday!
tcherasaro · HN #49401193
Missed the best name! https://1337labs.org/(I'm not affiliated with this company and know nothing about it)
vova_hn2 · HN #49402677
https://gist.github.com/alexyorke/2b34de0856c143936c7f4deb6f...
polygot · HN #49403942
TIL about vectorheart. One my favorite aesthetics, never knew the name
whoislewys_1 · HN #49405179
Remembr when it was missng lettrs out of wrds
pmg101 · HN #49401579
My friends' band "Dead Sexy" released an album in 2005 that embodies the aesthetic perfectly: https://www.last.fm/music/Dead+Sexy/Between+The+Lines(there were multiple bands with that name over the years)
20after4 · HN #49405989
So true. IMO, (web) aesthetic went downhill after that, with web2.0 rounded corners and then mobile friendly minimalism.
juliend2 · HN #49407928
Finally, a periodic table of labs
zahrevsky · HN #49401140
Wow, haha I just created an LLC that is a "<number> Labs" company. I don't plan on raising VC or anything public with it, it's just a name to release apps on the app store under.I was trying to come up with a name and it was exhausting, everything was taken, I was trying "clever names", eventually after strategizing with ChatGPT it gave me the suggestion along the lines of:"Many people just use their initials, birthdate, or area code, plus the word 'software', 'tech', or 'labs'"And I went ahead with that and called it a day!
no_no_no_yes · HN #49402149
I got lucky when registering an LLC last year for some contract work because despite having a relatively common first and last name, no one had named an nLLC that in my (very large) city. At some point during the process, I had to pick an officer title for myself for some paperwork, but there didn't seem to be any guidelines or restrictions on them, so I just put down my name for that too; I figured that being Firstname Lastname of Firstname Lastname LLC is probably even more clear than "CEO" since it makes it even more obvious that I'm the only one in it.
saghm · HN #49402291
Hitchhiker: You heard of this thing, the 8-Minute Abs?Ted: Yeah, sure, 8-Minute Abs. Yeah, the exercise video.Hitchhiker: Yeah, this is going to blow that right out of the water. Listen to this: 7... Minute... Abs.Ted: Right. Yes. OK, all right. I see where you're going.Hitchhiker: Think about it. You walk into a video store, you see 8-Minute Abs sittin' there, there's 7-Minute Abs right beside it. Which one are you gonna pick, man?Ted: I would go for the 7.Hitchhiker: Bingo, man, bingo. 7-Minute Abs. And we guarantee just as good a workout as the 8-minute folk.Ted: You guarantee it? That's - how do you do that?Hitchhiker: If you're not happy with the first 7 minutes, we're gonna send you the extra minute free. You see? That's it. That's our motto. That's where we're comin' from. That's from "A" to "B".Ted: That's right. That's - that's good. That's good. Unless, of course, somebody comes up with 6-Minute Abs. Then you're in trouble, huh?[Hitchhiker convulses]Hitchhiker: No! No, no, not 6! I said 7. Nobody's comin' up with 6. Who works out in 6 minutes? You won't even get your heart goin, not even a mouse on a wheel.Ted: That - good point.Hitchhiker: 7's the key number here. Think about it. 7-Elevens. 7 dwarves. 7, man, that's the number. 7 chipmunks twirlin' on a branch, eatin' lots of sunflowers on my uncle's ranch. You know that old children's tale from the sea. It's like you're dreamin' about Gorgonzola cheese when it's clearly Brie time, baby. Step into my office.Ted: Why?Hitchhiker: 'Cause you're fuckin' fired!
01284a7e · HN #49401157
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB2di69FmhEfrom There's Something About Mary
tosh · HN #49402117
I was trying to remember the actor/comedian who delivered this pitch. It was Harland Williams. I most remember him as the Pennsylvania state trooper from Dumb & Dumber.
asveikau · HN #49401724
The list goes even further - Many companies are doing "[zipcode/postalcode/country calling code of HQ] labs", e.g. 904 labs, 212 labs, etc.
hajrice · HN #49408108
Reminiscent of 22 Savage <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIz1HGNlTA4>, 23 Savage <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8JKly7sXpU>, etc.
streptomycin · HN #49402220
I think it’s similar to the reasoning behind HN stripping numbers from clickbait headlines. Numbers feel salient even when they represent nothing at all, because numbers are used universally in every field of human study and endeavor. Unlike field-specific jargon.
pshc · HN #49405295
New OEIS entry: numbers used in names of startups followed by “labs”
ivan888 · HN #49402375
Aren't OEIS entries immutable?
anticensor · HN #49407480
I used to work for a startup called 1026 Labs!
marssaxman · HN #49401458
Amazon's hardware development subsidiary in Sunnyvale, California is Lab126. (Hi Mars!)
rgovostes · HN #49402286
I see someone is implementing FizzBuzz in “startup funding rounds”.
fwlr · HN #49401257
I feel like Lab126 (Amazon's hardware R&D lab) should probably make the cut
swiftcoder · HN #49409446
All of the internal software on Kindle devices references lab126
brirec · HN #49409529
There was 13th lab, acquired by oculus years ago. Wouldn't surprise me if there are a bunch of first, second, third labs too
dcanelhas · HN #49406589
All those cool domain names are gone now - the power of the hn frontpage!
chvid · HN #49401373
> https://app.seventylabs.ch/> 6.90 CHF - locks your Mac's keyboard, trackpad and mouse and shows a black screen while you clean. Free 7-day trial.> 4.90 CHF - opens macOS's color loupe on any pixel on screen and instantly copies its HEX, RGB or HSL code to the clipboard. History of your last 8 colors, with a real magnifier that zooms into pixels. Free 7-day trial.That's weird that the more techy thing is cheaper.
jv22222 · HN #49402374
both of those things are available for free from others.we can assume all of that is AI-generated rip off code anyways.
allthetime · HN #49402440
Three score and ten labs
dainiusse · HN #49401372
Three score and seven labs /s
dylan604 · HN #49401654
There's also https://nolabs.ai which I just now discovered thanks to this, which is a competitor to my own https://watch.ly
winrid · HN #49406472
You gotta lose that serif font my guy.
compil3d · HN #49409377
There's always some kind of popular dumb naming scheme. I remember when it was prefixing "Zen-" to your startup. Some things never change
nostratas · HN #49401099
Mid 2000s I remember the -ify and -ly startups.
65 · HN #49409761
I'm guessing at least some of these are named after their street addresses. 47 Smith St -> 47 Labs
stevage · HN #49404808
Missing opportunity for rational compositionalists over Grothendick Topologies and (pre-)sheaves taking FiftySevenLabs
unprovable · HN #49407876
buying up all domains right now, thanks for making me rich
zuuna · HN #49401200
https://www.linkedin.com/company/one-bit-labs/posts/?feedVie...
djmips · HN #49402165
Reminds me of the PCB companies. 3pcb, 4pcb, 5pcb, 6pcb, 7pcb, ...
qurren · HN #49404093
A long time ago I used "23 Labs" as a funny name relative to my username. Fast forward many years and I considered actually using it. Apparently "[Number] Labs" is a very popular idea now...Oh well
agg23 · HN #49401994
At this point I’m expecting FourteenLabs to show up with a $200M valuation and a mission statement about “redefining human potential."
malixp · HN #49403067
Amazon beat everyone to the punch, with Lab126.
dlcarrier · HN #49403472
Hugged I think, no archives (org/today).
Barbing · HN #49401402
not one website raising Labrador Retrievers ?
nabajour · HN #49408509